Talk:15 November 2003/Transcript

Initial Stuff

all right boys .... there's my first attempt, first 13 minutes. knockinabout - what do you think? i'm happy to fix it up however it needs to be. i was thinking if the other transcribers already started their formats might be different from mine, which will be a pain. probably we should've decided on a format together ahead of time (whoops). if you didn't start, maybe do it like i did? am i being bossy?  :)

Looks brilliant to me. As far as formatting goes this is fine. Like I mentioned, its ok if everyone does something different because I plan on bringing commonality to them. And yes that does me putting $/#/@ characters for names instead is alright, just as long as the character is uniquely "crtl+F-able". Bender suggested full names for better flow. I'm on the fence because most other transcripts use initials. Then again we could change all that too.--Knockinabout 22:18, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

also i felt like transcriptions need their own page so as to not overwhelm the regular episode page. but i'm open if you disagree.
Steve is King 21:27, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

From what I could tell from other transcription pages, that's how they are set up (at least most that I looked at). I agree with this set up too because transcripts are so long.--Knockinabout 22:18, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

ALSO i tried to use british spelling when i recognized that it called for it. feel free to check my work.  :) i used "learnt" instead of learned, "favourite" instead of favorite ... but there could be some things that i didn't notice i typed american-esq. Steve is King 21:48, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

Ditto for me when I add mine--Knockinabout 22:18, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

Right i've put mine in now, so that's 26-39, so i've left a gap so that the other's can slot there's in between mine and steveisking's. I used their first names, need to come to a decision on that really. --Bender32 07:37, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

Formatting

I'll throw my 2 cents in on the formatting thing. I think this formatting looks really nice: http://www.pilkipedia.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=19_January_2002/Transcript . Could also put in a template that color-codes the names. I'll put some ideas up in the sandbox for your consideration. -Squeek

This is what I think would be best:
Ricky: XFM 104.9, kicking off there with the Dandy Warhols, Steve.
Steve: Sure.
Ricky: Ricky Gervais Show, with me Steve Merchant.

• Boldface to distinguish.
• No all caps (if full names) because its an eye sore.
• Use full names because ... I just like it that way I guess (but this is probably the thing I care least about).
• I also like the dividing headings.
• Page breaks make it compact, I like that (can't think of a non-manual way to do it though).
• Also I think this page will have to being moved to the /Transcript format of the summary page of this episode.
• Not quite sold on the colored boxes, beautiful as they are. It just seems a bit excessive. I could be swayed though.
  

Anyone else have thoughts?--Knockinabout 18:35, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

nice work, everybody. i think

• no all caps. hurts my eyes.
• divider headings is good but we need to figure out how to do that/who does it. do we wait until it's all done and then have 1 person made headings for the entire show?
• i'm also not sold on the need for colored boxes. it is pretty but seems like extra work that isn't necessary. which is almost exactly what KA said.

now a question: i ASSUMED that once transcripts were on the site, the text in them would be included in the list you get when you do a search. but i guess that is not true ... is it that it would become enormously cumbersome to have all that additional text possible when a search was done? but if you can't access the transcribed info when you do a search, i'm honestly not sure what the point of transcribing is. am i making sense? for example if i wanted to know all the times the boys mention "VHS" tapes and i put in "VHS", i get nothing right now. but i transcribed some VHS info. someone illuminate me on this por favor. Steve is King 19:08, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

Steve is King: The reason why "VHS" as a search term doesn't show up with results is that (I think) the search has to be a minimum of x amount of letters, in this case its 3. But, if you search for "VHS tape," it returns results for "vhs" and "tape." Maybe something for Nigel to look into, since it is just a glitch in certain search terms. If you search for... "retro" lets say, it returns results from transcripts.

And, it really will be easy to use the colored transcript layout. I'll convert them into templates and show you the source. It will be simple, trust me. - Squeek

P.S. Why don't my posts get a timestamp added to them? :(

well i've embarrassed myself! sweet. so it IS all there - excellent. i should've tried more things than VHS :{ !

squeek, for a signature with a timestamp, it's 4 tildes (or just hit the 2nd to last icon above). like this: Steve is King 20:10, 2 August 2007 (EDT)  :)

I'm liking the colored layout now that I see the text has a lighter color. The only bit I'm still a little put off by is the border around the name. I know it's minutae, but, anyone else with me on this or is it just me? Also, can we get an "other" category for a color, because I've got movie characters in my bit. Aside that I love everything about the formatting. Once we get the last bit in I'll synch it all up according to Squeek's brill scheme. Should other transcripts be tweaked like this?

The headings will come from 15 November 2003. It's one of the reasons I chose a summarized article to work on initially. I'll spearhead this this task as well, once everything comes in.

Again, I pose the question of moving the page to the /transcript address as a standard. Unless we want to make a new standard. I also posted my bit. The songs aren't formatted well, but I'll take care of that in the master cut.--Knockinabout 21:13, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

Alright, so I took the borders out from the templates. If you liked it better with them, it is easy to put them back in. No worries about that. Also, I have added an "Other" template for you. Here it is:

{{Other|<Name>|<Dialogue>}}

Claire: I have been sober for a whole three minutes now.

Also will add this:

{{Act:Other|<Action>}}

Claire Laughs

As for the already compiled transcriptions, don't worry about it. I know a way to covert them quickly and easily. Leave that to me. --Squeek 23:16, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

Cheers Squeek! I think the templates look marvelous. You seem to know wtf you're doing that's for sure. I hope I'm capable of your level of wiki trickery some day. (Nice to be on the same time frame as you too.)--Knockinabout 23:31, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

Templated Transcript Layout

Ricky: Retro cut there, Thin Lizzy, Don’t Believe a Word. On Xfm 104.9. I’m Ricky Gervay, with me, Steve Merchant, Bobbity Boo! Who’s that over there? It’s Karly Pilkboids!

Steve Laughs

Steve: Oh that’s classic.

Ricky: You all right, Karl? How’re ya doing? C’mon – up! Up! Bigabagadoo! Pro-ject! Project! There’s people out there wanting to, you know, cheer up their Saturday afternoons. We’re the boys for it, yeah? We’re like quick-quick fitters.

Steve: All right, Karl?

Ricky and Steve: Come onnn!

Karl: I’m all right! I’m up for it!

Steve: That’s it, this is the height of excitement?!

Ricky: This is it is it? This is you off your head, is it? High on life.

Steve Laughs

Ricky: Christ. What did Suzanne say about you saying about her big ass?

Karl: Aw. She, she heard about it.

Ricky: Go on.

Steve: Should we recap what happened last week?

Ricky: Well, the week before, he uh said that her haircut looked like Dave Hill from Slade, she didn’t like that. … A bit grumpy, he went, ‘Yeah, Don’t mention her fat ass’, still thinking she wouldn’t hear about this. What happened when you went home?

Karl: She heard about that off a mate, and we sorted it out, and I didn’t have to buy her anything, I just sort of said, ‘Come on, that’s what the show’s about, stop moaning.’ That was all right until about Thursday, when I was reading about, uh, do you know like they say there’s two worlds and that? And whatever I’m doing here, there’s another one of me doing the same?

Ricky: Yeah.

Steve: Well, he’s probably taking some time off. Probably having a week off.

Ricky: Yeah. Go on.

Karl: But I was just talkin about that, and she was sayin, ‘Naw, that doesn’t happen.’ And I said, ‘Well, they definitely won’t have a haircut like yours.’ And that sort of started the, the argument again.

Ricky: Yeah, it’s almost like you haven’t learnt your lesson. Also, it’s like you’re talking about it again on air, almost, in a way. So her mates can hear it again. Very short learning curve. You know what? Karl, if there was a, if I cut a hole in a, in a box, and you knew there was an orange in there, right, and you put your hand in, would you be stuck there trying to get that orange out, do you think? Or would you just like, let it go and sort of tip of over to get your hand out?

Source

{{Ricky|Retro cut there, Thin Lizzy, Don’t Believe a Word.   On Xfm 104.9. ...}}
{{Act:Steve|Steve Laughs}}
{{Steve|Oh that’s classic.}}
{{Ricky|You all right, Karl?  How’re ya doing?  C’mon – up! Up!  Bigabagadoo! ...}}
{{Steve|All right, Karl?}}

...

{{Ricky|Yeah.  Go on.}}
{{Karl|But I was just talkin about that, and she was sayin, ‘Naw, that doesn’t ...}}
{{Ricky|Yeah, it’s almost like you haven’t learnt your lesson.  Also, it’s like ...}}

Notes

So, it'll basically just be adding {{ and }} at the ends of each line of dialogue.

Thoughts now? -Squeek

WOW. i have no idea how you did this. i like it. so .. um ... what do we do to get it to do that? Steve is King 20:13, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

Its using wiki templates. Example: Template:Karl. All you have to do is write the transcripts like I did above (in the "Source" section).

Specific Instructions:

Dialogue

{{<Name of Talker>|<Dialogue>}}
  Example: {{Steve|Oh, that's class.}}

Steve: Oh, that's class.

Actions, by one person

{{Act:<Name of Person>|<Action>}}
  Example: {{Act:Steve|Steve Laughs}}

Steve Laughs

General actions

{{Action|<Action>}}
  Example: {{Action|Song: Muse - Plug in Baby}}

Song: Muse - Plug in Baby

Two people talking at a time

{{Together|<Names of People>|<Dialogue>}}
  Example: {{Together|Ricky and Steve|Come onnn!}}

Ricky and Steve: Come onnn!

Actions by more than one person

{{Action|<Action>}}
  Example {{Action|Ricky and Steve sigh.}}

Ricky and Steve sigh.

--Squeek 20:33, 2 August 2007 (EDT) <-- (Thanks Steve is King)